IAHF List:
Please consider the view of RaW1@aol.com
(below) Do you agree with his contention that the Seattle police
were justified to break people's teeth and jaws by firing rubber
bullets at point blank range and otherwise violate the law by
torturing protestors in custody who refused to tell them their
names (which they aren't obligated by law to do), or do you agree
with my contention that this was wrong, and that our country has
been sold out by the whores in Congress to the NWO?
The police billyclubbed a pregnant woman who stepped onto the
street from a hotel with her husband and who didn't even have
anything to do with the protest, forcing her to go to the
hospital for stiches and the trauma of being clubbed and tear
gassed caused her to have a miscarriage and lose their 4 month
old baby. I call that MURDER, RaW1, what do _YOU_ call it?
Please respond directly to RaW1@aol.com,
and cc your responses to me. I'll repost the best responses to
the IAHF list in the hope that more people will join me in
condemning the actions of the Seattle police, and in requesting
that a complete congressional investigation ensue as to what
REALLY happened there and as to our continued involvement in the
WTO, which I contend we must pull out of or be subsumed into an
obviously fascistic New World Order which clearly has no problem
with using jack booted thugs to "keep us in line" using
unrestrained terror tactics.
What is your reaction to RaW1's defense of Mc Donalds, which has
lied to us about claiming to recycle anything, has lied to us
claiming to not use beef from cattle grown by destroying the rain
forrest, and which has lied to us about the amount of fat and
cholesterol in their burgers? Oh yeah, I almost forgot, doesn't
it bother you that Mc Donalds uses beef grown with Bovine Growth
Hormone?
It bothers me, and I sympathize with the Europeans who want to
ban hormone treated beef. It angers me that the Europeans are
threatened with trade sanctions if they don't allow this
dangerous beef to be imported, and it angers me that European
farmers such as France's Jose Bove are blocked by American
imposed trade sanctions from importing his Roquefort Cheese into
our country when his cheese is nutritious and healthy, while Mc
Donald's burgers kill people and contribute to the destruction of
the rain forrest.
When I learned that Jose Bove had attached a tractor to the roof
of a Mc Donalds in France and destroyed the building, I cheered!
RaW1 obviously doesn't share my views. All I can say, RaW1 is
that I hope you will eat nothing but McDonald's so called
"food" from here on in so that you will get cancer
ASAP, and thus remove yourself from our presence by shufflin' off
this immortal coil. If you are so blind that you can't appreciate
my efforts to stick up for your rights as a human being by going
to Seattle to protest in your behalf, then I truly don't
understand your attitude, and really think it would behoove you
to examine it closely.
The freedom you currently enjoy as an American was paid for in
other people's blood. It was paid for by people who did not
sanction Nazis or Communists the way you clearly do. Perhaps the
best thing for you to do would be to go to a country where the
prevalent thinking would be a lot more in line with your fascist
views: like China. My guess is you have no problem with what the
Chinese military did to the students in Tianenman Square if you
liked what police just did in Seattle. The fact is, RaW1, that I
and others successfully disrupted the WTO and due in part to our
efforts to expose the criminality of the WTO, they weren't able
to lay the groundwork for another round of trade talks and are
being forced to go back to the drawing board.
I'd say we did a pretty good job, RaW1. If we don't destroy the
WTO, its Dispute Settlement Body will eventually rule in favor of
pharmacuetical interests wishing to sell vitamins as
"drugs" here.
Presumably you don't want that to happen or you
wouldn't be on the IAHF list. They will rule that our dietary
supplement laws constitute an "unfair trade barrier"
and we could be forced to repeal them if we don't
"harmonize" to Codex standards which are rapidly being
shoved through to eventual completion due to pharmaceutical
penetration of NNFA, which is keeping its members in the dark and
not telling them whats going on. I urge you to reassess your
views.
To: RaW1@aol.com
From: John Hammell <jham@iahf.com>
Subject: Re: MD Testifies Re: SEVERE, Widespread Seattle Police Brutality in
Seattle
In-Reply-To: <0.140a0262.257bc70b@aol.com>
At 08:47 AM 12/5/99 EST, you wrote:
Jack: Those who rioted and destroyed property deserved to be jailed and, if in the process, they got injured or hurt then I have no sympathy for them. The McDonalds, stores, among others, often hire handicapped individuals who earn very little money and survive paycheck to paycheck. The rioting has scared them unnecessarily, deprived them of much needed income, and may even have cost them their jobs. This is part of the shameful side of protest.
Yes, peaceful protesters got caught up in the police sweep of rioters and in attempts to maintain community order, but that is the price a protestor pays for associating with rioters and being with them when they do damage. The police are limited human beings. They do not have perfect knowledge about who is a rioter and who is not. While I dislike the WTO because of its impact on American national interests, I cannot support rioting to make a point. I grew up in the 60s and saw the press paint a very rosy picture of violent protest. I am not going to let the press paint the same picture today -- I am older and wiser having lived through it.
First of all, I'm John, not "Jack"
The police fired at many non violent people at point blank range who had done nothing to provoke them, and broke many teeth, and at least one jaw. They caused a woman to miscarry by scaring the hell out of her by gassing her when she and her husband came out of a hotel and were just trying to walk down the street.
The police escalated their thuggery outside the declared "no protest" zone and indiscriminantly fired tear gas on people for not reason at all, and even fired it inside shops.
They had no legal right under the constitution to declare a "no protest zone" or to arrest people for just walking down the street because in their estimation they "looked like" protestors, yet they did this on numerous occassions. They even arrested a city councilman and pulled him from his car to arrest him when he attempted to drive his car, and they arrested a reporter from the Seattle Post Intelligencer
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